VH1 Now Shocked By Black Viewers’ Exodus? 
So today I hear VH1 is actually shocked at the drastic decline in viewership from the premiere episode to the second episode of Ochocinco: The Ultimate Catch.
VH1 claims the largest decline came with African-American viewers. Now I could use this post to talk about that but we’ve already talked about this at length here and here and frankly I don’t care about that issue anymore.
Anyway I’ve stayed quiet for far too long this year so I decided to use this post as an open checklist of sorts to VH1 to let them know why nobody wants to watch their shows. For people who hate reading, just scroll down to the bottom and look at pics of some girls who were cast to be in the group of 85 but not selected to be in the final 17.
On the Ultimate Catch:
1) Please for the love of everything rational why the fuck did you have to film that shit with such a cheap ass, dark camera? That picture quality is absolutely horrible. 2 episodes in it’s become way past annoying and we have now realized our TV’s are not broken so we’re out until that can be rectified.
2) The contestants are boring. None of them stand out in any way at all. You get points for not casting all clones but if you were going to cast people with no personality, you could have given Ocho 20 blow-up dolls and they would be funnier than the waste of space here.
3) Now you guys know better than to put this show up against stuff people actually want to watch (aka True Blood). People are not dumb and when you re-run a shit show 50 million times during the week people will watch when they get around to it and watch the show they have been waiting all week to see the first time it comes on.
4) Since this show is devoid of challenges that 20 minutes of dead air is super obvious. Come on. A pool party with no guests? A Tailgating party? Yoga? WTF is that? As a recapper I can’t really talk about that shit unless someone says something stupid. I would imagine as a viewer I would rather erase super old text messages from my phone than pay attention to the TV when that part is on.
On VH1’s other shows:
1) These weight loss, counseling and wedding shows need to stop. There are too many other shows on too many other channels that have the same thing and probably don’t suck as hard because they cast, schedule and promote their crap way better than you do.
2) I thought you guys said you wanted classier shows. Ok so we no longer have girls doing vagina shots. That’s an upgrade. However, fake, wannabe wives sending nude pictures of themselves to people on their cell phone is not classy. Dudes who spend their pregnant girlfriend’s money on weed is not classy. Casting a person nobody knew 8 months ago, doesn’t really have a real addiction to anything and is only known for fucking the richest athlete in the world and labeling her as a celebrity is not classy. Just admit you are still trashy VH1 and start making shows that reflect it.
3) Please stop putting words in our mouths. We hate Ray J. Jessica Simpson is boring. Chilli will never find a damn man she can stay with. Frank the Entertainer, Pep and the Aspen cougars will all be single forever because they are childish bitches. The Bitter Wannabe wives are going to stay bitter because they are old and nobody wants them anymore. We don’t feel sorry for stupid girls who fucked losers and got pregnant after knowing them for 2 months. Rich ugly skanks who don’t realize they were fucked in every aspect of life except being rich is not riveting.
Point is, we don’t connect with these people. They are nothing like us. They are ungrateful, whiny, stupid and they take away all the mystique of the proverbial ‘grass being greener on the other side’. Most of us can look outside of our windows and find stuff more real and entertaining than this 8th grade crap.
4) You know the least you could do is let us know in advance when you’re switching nights/ times/days or skipping weeks. We live in the age of the internet. If something happened more than 8 days ago it’s already in the archives of our minds. That also means we need to be constantly reminded if something we might want to watch is coming every day for at least 3 weeks in advance. We need to decide if what we were going to do or watch is more important than watching your shows. Since obviously you haven’t done that we’ve clearly been choosing something else so um fix that please and maybe we can start coming back.
Thoughts?
This took so long to do.
BTW I know the girl in the last pic (and the top pic) is the pornstar Kapri Styles so no need to link her stuff here in the comments.
I’m sure I made you download Irfanview; those pics could do with some darkening.
You didn’t make me download that and why should the pictures be darker? These are the best lit pics from a bunch of dark, blurry videos.
Gives it a better look, at least on my monitor which is a pretty good one.
Like that main pic has most definitely been resized. Lemme do that one then I’ll get to reading
My monitor is really bright (partly by design and partly by choice) so dark pics just look dark and not really that great on my screen.
This is like your first super post, lol.
Don’t know if the yellow works though. And I just heard that TMZ is saying Ochocinco and T.O will play together next season
T.O. has been saying he wanted to play with Ocho since the season ended. It just that at first Cincinnati wasn’t interested in him.
On the field or in the bedroom?
Can’t stand them!
“I would imagine as a viewer I would rather erase super old text messages from my phone than pay attention to the TV when that part is on.”
How did you know? This show is what old people would play in the background so they don’t feel abandoned by their relatives.
Commits Suicide
If they want viewers to care about these people we need more sincere moments and introductions. Also when did they forget that personality is what sells reality television? Beauty helps but it’s personality that keeps people watching.
You know… most of the memorable stars aren’t that cute
I guess they really forgot that part because they throw anybody on TV now and assume we are automatically inclined to care because they have a show.
$L0L AGREE WITH THE POST BUT I LIKE JASMINE & EA U DAMM RIGHT L0L$
Maybe it’s a mistake to make reality shows around athletes. They need to find someone that is famous for their personality. I was thinking Simon Cowell. Or Pam Anderson. or Courtney Love. Think about it Courtney Love of Love. Just think of the great interviews.
Agree with most – I do connect with those women on Secrets of Aspen
British sarcasm?
I think there’s something wrong with the formatting, there is a strong tag that’s not closed.
Fixed now
You can go change the color if you want. I thought of using the white but it looked weird to me. However I’m not liking the yellow either.
VH1′s shocked at everybody realizing that this is bullshit? HA!
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Standing ovation for EA!!
WHAT THE FUCK? Iz that Kapri Styles(Tiana)?!
And all those girls except Cali should’ve been on this show, including Sherri(the one who they used for interviews, then kicked off).
Yea that’s her.
Fail. Just fuckin fail. Ocho needs to die for not havin her on the show.
Why Jasmine and Tiphani couldn’t do FTLORJ2? We wouldn’t have had the Heartbreaker/Mz.Berry show.
I really think vh1 should of picked the girls for him..and gave them nicknames too. I think sherri and celena should of been on there I could do without the other girls from previous shows.
Does anyone remember a show with Jerry Hall? Where the objective was to be a kept man? They should do something like that but with good looking guys this time.
It wuz called “Kept”. It wuz somewhat entertaining.
All i am suggesting is that they go back. Way back.
That show was brilliant. I was just talking about that at home.
You spying on me or summat?
Nah, that was just one of the first Vh1 shows I watched from start to finish.
But seriously, you should clean your bathroom. It’s gross in there.
LOL! Get him Kenri!
There is a potentially dangerous clique developing here, lol.
Awww! You know I’ll always love you Boo Boo!
#2 and 3 got me the most. EA didn’t you say VH1 changed their formula becuz of some wack azz “survey” that they did? They claimed people wanted shows that were reflective of their everyday lives. I’m pretty sure people don’t have blind dates set up by some big bitch from Brooklyn everyday, nor do they flaunt money they don’t have by their rich S/O.
Yea….they tried to use that “we wanted to make shows based on issues our viewers can connect with” and the “we want to move away from the trashy image we once portrayed but we still think our viewers will be pleased with our new programming”. Really this is the same shit except more lame because they are calling it classy when it’s a big fail.
Yea. I don’t know how many fat people have 10k of their own money to put up to try to win 90k of other people’s money.
I feel like VH1 just called me fat and lonely.
You really need to email this to them, Matic.
Not that it will do any good, but I’d pay to see the look on the first person’s face who reads this verbal bitch slap.
You never know. This could be the first step towards trashy change. It may not bring back trashy “of Love” or ILM, but it could start up a whole new era of filth and debauchery.
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LOL!
What Mel said. LOL
for Mel:
Oscar Grant mural
http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/hood-news/42615-oakland-smokin-black-panthers-oscar-grant.html
I’ve seen it in person, GS.
Thanks, but I’m going to let that sensitive topic go before certain dickheads take it as an invitation to start up with me again.
I’m in no mood for that bullshit today, and I will (verbally) cut a muthafucka.
RIP OG, & that’s all I have to say about that.
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Right on.
I just wish they would put it some place where it would be permanent. Once someone buys or rents that part of that building the mural will be gone
I tried to change the colors… it’s not the best but I think it beats the criminal assault that was the ‘yellow’
It’s better than the yellow.
Nice… well now that everything is sorted I can say ‘Top post’
Thanks.
Now all the mechanics are worked out I gotta make 2 comments about stuff in this post.
1. Shannon looks extra familiar but I don’t know from where.
2. I ask this because of what Stilts said yesterday but does anybody else think it’s suspect that Caviar would come audition for another show where a black guy was the host yet she won’t do porn with black guys?
Caviar’s only done one porn though, unless she’s filming another one.
There’s probably more coming. Brandi C did like 6-7 different scenes and stopped. Natasha did like 5 different scenes and stopped.
I don’t know if she’s racist but I imagine race matters less to her than money and fame.
FUcking DEAD @ “Rich ugly skanks who don’t realize they were fucked in every aspect of life except being rich is not riveting.”
Still amazes me how Vh1 thinks this shit is……….good?
just tell them to bring back the old celebreality. the one we all loved. i love money, charm school, new york, rock of love, all the poele from those shows. Why are they changing the shows we used to love?
ILM is gone and never coming back. They aren’t going to show the 2 they cancelled and they aren’t going to make new ones because they can’t make another show and call it I Love Money. ROL is also gone because Bret doesn’t want to do it anymore. Charm School seemed dead at the end of season 3 and New York is acting stupid. I think VH1 tried for 2 1/2 years to get her to do another ILNY and instead she did 2 stupid filler shows so I don’t know if they want to do another ILNY now.
EA, great post and I appreciate this even though I don’t even get the references since I haven’t a VH1 show since RCOL2.
But this is what I have to say…
Why do people even waste their time on VH1? It’s over. It’s done. Stop worrying or bitching about if whether it would improve or not. It wont and never will since they cut off 51 Minds (the heart of VH1). Stop forcing yourself to watching these shows (this goes especially to you Steupz). It’s like ya’ll have a commitment to VH1 or something. There’s so many other programs and TV shows out there worth watching. WHO CARES IF VH1 SUCKS?
Eh? 51 Minds are co-producing Ultimate Catch and Money Hungry.
They also produced Family Business, Bret’s new show and they are producing La La and Carmelo Anthony’s Wedding show.
As far as I know the only VH1 show being covered (that means recapped) is Ultimate Catch.
On the other hand there are True Blood, Pretty Little Liars and Real World recaps, so whatever point you tried to make, it’s not accurate.
But the foundation of this site is Flavor of Love so VH1 will always appear here.
You’ve returned!
EA you struck the main reasons head on. I cannot agree with you more. You should e-mail then since they are getting worried about the black viewers.
If someone else or a bunch of people wants to e-mail this they can. I didn’t write it with the intention of being the official written moratorium against VH1 (However I don’t mind if it’s seen that way). I wrote it because I thought the ‘black viewer’ comment was funny and more proof of VH1 being delusional because they seem so worried about the Ultimate Catch failing when there are plenty of other shows on now and were on before Ultimate Catch that are doing worse than it and they didn’t seem to care in the 18 months that VH1 has been in steady decline.
EA where did you hear that VH1 is shocked at the demographic loss? In print or through another party?
Through an e-mail I got from VH1.
I want my own reality show…..young married ccouple struggling to live in paradise and raise 4 kids….two kids new to this country….struggling with age, culture, family mixing, and finance….call me VH1
Co-sign all the talk about promotion and repeats.
I know they think that if they show something early, it’s going to drive up the buzz for it and the evening showing will get bigger ratings, but I’ve never watched something on the 11am and then in the evening.
Combine that with the fact that they put on stuff like OCD, Dad Camp, and Bridal Bootcamp and just let them die in their timeslots (I like the first two a lot so it’s extra annoying that they throw Dad Camp on Wednesdays and not say a damn word about it). If you’re putting out shows with “regla” people, your promotion department needs to go extra hard because unless you love the format or the end goal of the show (stuff like Dad Camp and OCD were interesting to me for that reason because you got to see people really grow and better themselves — not every VH1 show has to have people shittin’ on the floor and beatin’ each other down to be entertaining), it’s hard to get people committed. If they’re do that, maybe they wouldn’t NEED the extra showing in the morning to drive up buzz because it’ll already be there, y’know?
And honestly, I’m glad that they’re not doing the Of Love shows again because shit was getting stale. FOL3 was ass, ROL3 was a step down, I made it through about three episodes of FTLORJ2 (and RCOL2) before jumping ship, The Entertainer’s show was pitiful, New York’s shows weren’t great, CS3 was bad…
I would be alright if they started up a similar franchise but for the love of everything, please get new people.
I agree on The Entertainer’s show and NY’s new shows being shyt. but what about ILM??
ILM was shit too. It was really a very overrated show. As time passed the contestants became less and less likeable not to mention VH1 only casted a bunch of lames. The challenges were stupid, making up rules along the way was stupid and the way people went about eliminating others was stupid too. That’s why I’m kinda glad it’s gone and will never come back.
That maybe true but what would you rather watch ILM or Ultimate catch??
ILM.
ILM beats anything on now.
Neither one.
I only watched both to recap and I prefer recapping over anything.
Thanx steupz 4 agreein with me and for you anon you gotta admit iLM was at least entertaining.
It wasn’t entertaining. The same people coming up with the same plans that they always fail to execute correctly is not entertaining. People being friends with the same damn people and trying to put them on (even over themselves) is not entertaining. People who target the same fucking people every week and don’t worry about themselves is not entertaining. People who throw challenges for no good reason except that they forget to realize losing ain’t beneficial to them ain’t entertaining. Face it I’m just not an ILM stan. I legitimately did not like ILM at all.
I absolutely agree. I think we’ve romanticized what we THINK ILM used to be.
It basically was very predictable and oft-times a chore to watch.
I agree. We’ve romanticized what we THOUGHT ILM used to be.
Perhaps ILM 3 and 4 are locked away in the 51 Minds’ vaults because they really sucked.
Moving Dad Camp to facilitate You’re Cut Off made no sense – to me.
It made no sense to me since You’re Cut Off really only had one good week after the switch.
WOOW THE FANS ARE SO EXTRIST NOW IM WITH THE FANS!! HERE THEYR MAD CUZ THE I LOVE MONEY SEASONS ARE CANCELLED AND THE OTHER SHOW THAT SHOULD BE PREMIERING NOW DOL2, TLT, ILB, CS4, IMA WITH THEM
!!!!!!WERE NOT GIVING U HIGH RATINGS NO MORE VH1 UNTILL U BRING OUR SHOWS BAK!!!!!!!!!!!!! (4, 5, 6, 7 VIEWERS) ON FOL 1 2 3, ILNY 1 2, ROL 1 2 3, ILM1 2 N MORE…
ummmm i googled extrist and it’s not a word *kanye shrug*
but i do agree with everything you said EA, vh1 is shitty now and i dont know why they would be suprised at any ratings drop. i think basment affair, price of beauty and family business finale should had been wake up call as to how bad their programming has gotten.
VH1 is only for puppy fuckers and gay midgets.
Screw the “Airing faboulous-no-trampy shows” bullsh*t and bring back ILM Already!!
If it were true that black folks felt offended by ILM and the “Of Love” shows, VH1 would’ve never aired FOL, FTLORJ, ILNY or RCOL. I know plenty of black folks who want ILM and the “Of Love” franchise back as much as I do.
Did they really thought they were not gonna lose viewers with this new “classy we-only-air-shows-that-make-(black) people-look-good-and-not-trashy” image??
The important thing is I Love Money and I Love New York are the only shows I’ve seen people plead for another series.
So entertaining or not, they have a fan base.
The ILM folks are whining now that it’s gone but they never really showed up like they could have when it was here. Yea ILM ratings look really good now that 2 million is a rarity and not commonplace but shit with all the whining (and you said this yourself too) you would think 3-4 million or more people would have watched that shit when it was on.
ILNY had the benefit of ending on a high note. FOL and ROL had stale season 3′s that don’t really compare to season 1 and 2 of their shows. The only reason people want it back was because it’s last season was actually decent and we weren’t turned off of the series because there wasn’t a lame season 3 to ruin it.
Nope, I wouldn’t think that unless I see 4 million people on Bourgy asking for it.
Changing your words now….aight.
No, I am saying people are entitled to miss a show, annoying or not. And it’s not a counter argument to a show has a fan base to say the show should have a bigger fan base.
I get your point but that’s still not what you said before.
Without knowing what I said before I am entitled to change my mind.
Just as I changed my mind and have other shows recapping here and just as I have changed my mind on many things.
Trini version of Slap Chop (some foul language)
WTF? I didn’t understand what he was saying. I love that Vinny guy.
I think the reason why people want ILM back so badly iz because of how hyped these next two seasons were. They were hyped to have:
Great casts(opinions vary)
All-new format
All-new ILM drama(first fist fights and whatnot)
Plus the ILM bandwagon simply started to catch ground, I guess. Either way it most likely would’ve been better than 99% of the crap every channel iz showin right now.
ILM4 will probably air overseas, as Endemol are distributing it. (page 13)
Very interesting find there, Reubot.
Thanks.
Good find…But i really can’t see this coming. They could rename ILM 4 to 3 since they didn’t add the third season on there. I know VH1 needs to bring back some old shows to boost at least some ratings.
There might be a legal issue to renaming a show like that.
I don’t know what I am talking about but I assume there are issues like that.
But if it’s happened before then correct me.
From what I know, I have never heard of an instance where a show that was canceled before making it to air because of some controversy was renamed so it could be easier to sell overseas. I’m not familiar with the overseas market at all but it really seems strange to me that Endemol (They are a majority owner of 51 Minds so their decision goes beyond anything VH1, Viacom or 51 Minds could make about that show) would even bother to sell season 4 anywhere knowing it will never air in the U.S.
Well I don’t think renaming is an issue as there are shows with a different name overseas than what appeared to the US.
I just wonder if you can change a season. But maybe you can.
I should have been clearer when I used ‘renaming’. I actually wanted to say re-seasoning but I thought that was too comical.
Maybe this could be that season Dee was talking about. But why name it 4 and you could easily name it 3. And after reading it. I can see the ILM franchise isn’t far from over.
It might be a bit obvious with all the contestants wearing ILM4 shirts.
ILM4 will probably air overseas where Endemol is distributing it.
Speaking of ratings, what was the Premiere Rating for I Love Money 2? Does anyone know?
2.3 million. FTLORJ1 premiered the same night right after ILM2 and got 2.4 million.
With numbers like that, only the mentally deficient would look at the ratings for the last 8 months at VH1 and think everything’s OK. Can they really be satisfied with 500K now?
I mean Premiere #s for ILM2?
Honestly, all VH1 had to do was create a show similar to ILM and just call it something different like they do on MTV. But instead they decided to change their image and ended up screwing themselves over.
And I figured that since the incident last summer happened during the filming of ILM4, I assumed that they finished filming and just never did anything/edited with the footage.
That makes sense. If you’re right there aren’t even episodes of ILM4 that could ever be released.
Aye, you met her, lmao.
This is sad!
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This seems to happen every year. Some douchebag robs a girl scout selling cookies or kids running a hella successful lemonade stand and of course they get on TV because it’s sad that some asshole stole from some kids.
That shit is funny. “This is for the delivery.” How did this make the news? They don’t even have footage.
hahaha not my finest Steupz
and yea, Pontiac, besides some of its clubs, is not that much better than Detroit.
I just posted about this on my blog and added your link. I’m not sure why vh1 is so surprised, who do they expect will watch this type of trash, especially when he’s blatantly disrespected black women in the public?
It’s a very well written article so I thank you for the link. Personally I think part of the shunning might be racially motvated but I also think people just don’t like this show because it’s boring. However it doesn’t change the fact that it’s still VH1′s second highest rated show right now.
You can also check my most recent ratings post for last week where you can see the Ultimate Catch ratings are still declining.